I have now read this entire archive, and I can’t tell if this is a joke or not…
I mean “stoners”, “posers” and “rocking” the stones?
Also, the rain of terrifying nachos?
It seems like it’s half inside-joke and half vegan propaganda.
Not sure if I will keep reading or not…
you may want to read through it again, it was quite obvious to me why these terms have been used, have you ever read or watched anything in the past with dimensional cross overs in it? where two dimensions get partially blended together? similar things happen in those as well…
don’t knock it for the strange terms…..they are as sensible and stupid as when catholics touch forehead, belly and shoulders and call that ‘cruxifying oneself’…..its cultural/religous terminology…..and the potatochips are part of the nightmare…..the bane of comon life that awaits when the spire is destroyed…..symbolism doesn’t make sense to anybody who doersn’t understand it…keep reading and you might find enlightment
“cruxifying oneself”?? Seriously? Sorry, try again. As a catholic of 19 years, I am plenty qualified to say “don’t believe everything everybody tells you”. If that were the case, we’d be claiming to be the same as Jesus; and no Catholic would claim that. Making the sign of the cross is a way of acknowledging the importance of Jesus death.
That is one of the less amusing myths I’ve heard though; some of them are hilarious!
Sarasham….You could keep on reading,you could stop reading and you could say something more useful than “If it is a joke,I don’t get it”.
When you’re offered something for free,the least you could do is to offer some contructive criticism if you don’t like it or a thumbs up if you like it.
In all honesty,there are things I like about this comic (B/W retro drawing-nobody does this anymore!) and things I don’t-like the non linear plot and the amount of secrets kept for too long.
However,comics are like food-the same taste is liked and hated by many,for specific reasons.
Perhaps you could tell your specific reasons and help the creator of the comic become a better cook…errrr……comic creator 🙂
Thanks for the show of support everyone. I appreciate the comments. 🙂
Just a reader… Good point about the non-linear plot. Actually this is one of things I’m critical of regarding Endstone too. Truth be told, I never thought I’d get this far in the story. The first scene I did was Cole kidnapping Quandel and this was an exercise to see if I could draw sequential art and it just took-off from there.
If I had to do it all over again, I would have started the story from this current flashback scene where Kyri and Jon met. This summer, I seriously considered throwing out the entire story and starting over. But what’s done is done.
Instead, I’m going to tell two linear stories. Kyri and Jon’s story in linear flashback segments, and the current story of Kyri and Cole searching for the missing Endstone. Hopefully that works, but it’s all about experimenting at this level. If anything, you’ll get to know the characters real well before this is over.
you COULD start over-ish, write the back story, after your done move it to the beginning in the archive so any new readers will read it in the order you prefer, art is a process that doesnt always go the direction you originally intended, but in this case, you have the tools to put it the way you wanted it after your done…or something like that…
That’s a good idea. 🙂 Once this “God of the Spire” story-arc is complete (we’re about halfway) I’m probably going back to some of the earlier pages to redraw and expand certain scenes anyways. A reshuffling of scenes might be possible. We’ll see how things go…
Curator I’m afraid I am not familiar at all with any dimensional cross overs (save for terrible fanfiction, which this is certainly not). Adon Rose The difference being that the symbolism behind things like crossing yourself (not crucifying yourself) is that the actions are at least partially explained. The cross comes up a lot in Christian rituals, because their savior Jesus died on it. I know this as someone who has spent less than one day a year in church. Some symbolism may be hard to grasp, but then it’s the author’s job to make it more clear, either through repeated use or explanation. If chips are supposed to represent the common, non-magical life that awaits when/if the spire is broken then I would personally see them as less a terrifying presence and more a depressing one. Perhaps the chips smothering her under an weighty pile of gloom? Just a Reader I never said I was for-sure not reading the comic anymore. All I said was it was difficult for me to tell if there was an undercurrent of humorous drug-references or if it was simply an odd choice of plot devices. Tony I’m sorry if you felt I was implying I didn’t like the series, I don’t read through the entire archives of series I don’t like. I’m intrigued by the story, but I’m finding it hard to get invested in it.
This is just how I’m reading it, so take that for what it’s worth to you.
I feel that it might be easier to involve myself in this story if I knew more about it. I can’t get a good feel for the world and it’s mechanics so it’s hard for me to gauge how I should be reacting to certain things. For example: Cole runs up a wall and turns into a dragon. Pretty cool, but since I have no gauge of how the world works I have no idea how cool it is. Deers seem to be people (as do cows and dogs and wolves) so…maybe everyone can turn into animals when they feel like it?
Herrik can’t “rock” any of the stones, but since most of the cast seems to be “stoners” how rare is the ability to “rock” one? Is it genetic? Is there a special thing about a person that lets them become a “stoner”? What’s the fate of “posers”? Are there residual powers from having “rocked” a stone?
I’m not asking you to answer these questions now (please don’t, it might spoil the plot) but maybe look at exploring them some time soon, maybe use Jon, he seems to know a lot about the world he’s not sharing yet. With a world this complex you often need to spell certain things out for the readers (or maybe just me).
Great questions Sarasham. 🙂 All I can say is that my goal with Endstone is to create a unique, fantasy world that is not based Tolkien’s works. I very well could fail miserably in this regard, but the questions you ask are the ones I want the audience to be asking. The answers ( and the rules of this fictional universe) will be revealed as the story unfolds and more time is spent with the characters.
And I can honestly say there are no in-jokes. Everything evolves from the character’s personalities, their situation, and the rules of the Endstone universe. These things are obviously not clear at this point in the story, so events (like the rain of potato chips) seem bizarre…. by design. And no, I am not a vegan or vegetarian. I’m just putting the characters in problematic situations, and for an animal, the worst thing that can happen is being eaten! And I was serious when I came up with the term “stoner” for the “magic-users” of this world. I got a good chuckle when I realized the double-meaning. So I rolled with it.
I appreciate your comments and I hope you enjoy Endstone. However I realize that Endstone is not for everyone. And that’s cool too.
And I reserve the right to totally screw up this thing. I’m experimenting and having fun. I hope folks come along for the ride. 🙂
I get what where your coming from sarasham, but I have never once ever read or watched anything even remotely entertaining that explained how their universe worked or why it worked a certain way all at once, its always slowly over time, for the express purpose of getting people invested in staying around and learning more, I dont know how invested I could get in a story line that explained everything to me right off the bat, if you can think of ANY popular webcomic, comic book, show, or movie, that did so, please let me know… so I can stay away from it…
I would have to say, almost every single long running scifi show I have ever seen has done an alternate dimension thing, true, the author here is doing a unique version of that kinda scenario it seems, but it seriously just wouldnt be interesting at all if it was all explained at once… what would be the point in continuing to read?
I for my part enjoy the story a lot. The only thing I loath, same as I loath with almost all web comics, is reaching the end of the archive and having to wait half a week (with some web comics up to a month) for the next page. I know two web comics that have the new page every day, but they are, I think, web adaptations of comics that exist already in paperback, not produced on the go, and even they are frustrating to wait for it.
Other than the waiting, its a great story and great world.
Thanks Adon Rose. 🙂 I wish I could post more pages more frequently, but unfortunately, I have to hold down a full time job. 🙁 Still, I’m glad you’re reading and enjoying Endstone. 🙂
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…that is not a nice surprise 🙁
D: Aw man.
Not a good way to meet the parents dude…
I have now read this entire archive, and I can’t tell if this is a joke or not…
I mean “stoners”, “posers” and “rocking” the stones?
Also, the rain of terrifying nachos?
It seems like it’s half inside-joke and half vegan propaganda.
Not sure if I will keep reading or not…
you may want to read through it again, it was quite obvious to me why these terms have been used, have you ever read or watched anything in the past with dimensional cross overs in it? where two dimensions get partially blended together? similar things happen in those as well…
don’t knock it for the strange terms…..they are as sensible and stupid as when catholics touch forehead, belly and shoulders and call that ‘cruxifying oneself’…..its cultural/religous terminology…..and the potatochips are part of the nightmare…..the bane of comon life that awaits when the spire is destroyed…..symbolism doesn’t make sense to anybody who doersn’t understand it…keep reading and you might find enlightment
“cruxifying oneself”?? Seriously? Sorry, try again. As a catholic of 19 years, I am plenty qualified to say “don’t believe everything everybody tells you”. If that were the case, we’d be claiming to be the same as Jesus; and no Catholic would claim that. Making the sign of the cross is a way of acknowledging the importance of Jesus death.
That is one of the less amusing myths I’ve heard though; some of them are hilarious!
Couldnt resist…
“Spectacles, Testacles, wallet and watch”
:))
The author uses many things from real life in a unique way. I think that is part of the charm of this comic.
I think Drakul just floats above them somewhere thinking: “Mmmmm! I love the smell of roasted deer in the morning…”
-Fywillan, the Rocker of the Guitarstone
Sarasham….You could keep on reading,you could stop reading and you could say something more useful than “If it is a joke,I don’t get it”.
When you’re offered something for free,the least you could do is to offer some contructive criticism if you don’t like it or a thumbs up if you like it.
In all honesty,there are things I like about this comic (B/W retro drawing-nobody does this anymore!) and things I don’t-like the non linear plot and the amount of secrets kept for too long.
However,comics are like food-the same taste is liked and hated by many,for specific reasons.
Perhaps you could tell your specific reasons and help the creator of the comic become a better cook…errrr……comic creator 🙂
Thanks for the show of support everyone. I appreciate the comments. 🙂
Just a reader… Good point about the non-linear plot. Actually this is one of things I’m critical of regarding Endstone too. Truth be told, I never thought I’d get this far in the story. The first scene I did was Cole kidnapping Quandel and this was an exercise to see if I could draw sequential art and it just took-off from there.
If I had to do it all over again, I would have started the story from this current flashback scene where Kyri and Jon met. This summer, I seriously considered throwing out the entire story and starting over. But what’s done is done.
Instead, I’m going to tell two linear stories. Kyri and Jon’s story in linear flashback segments, and the current story of Kyri and Cole searching for the missing Endstone. Hopefully that works, but it’s all about experimenting at this level. If anything, you’ll get to know the characters real well before this is over.
you COULD start over-ish, write the back story, after your done move it to the beginning in the archive so any new readers will read it in the order you prefer, art is a process that doesnt always go the direction you originally intended, but in this case, you have the tools to put it the way you wanted it after your done…or something like that…
That’s a good idea. 🙂 Once this “God of the Spire” story-arc is complete (we’re about halfway) I’m probably going back to some of the earlier pages to redraw and expand certain scenes anyways. A reshuffling of scenes might be possible. We’ll see how things go…
Curator I’m afraid I am not familiar at all with any dimensional cross overs (save for terrible fanfiction, which this is certainly not).
Adon Rose The difference being that the symbolism behind things like crossing yourself (not crucifying yourself) is that the actions are at least partially explained. The cross comes up a lot in Christian rituals, because their savior Jesus died on it. I know this as someone who has spent less than one day a year in church. Some symbolism may be hard to grasp, but then it’s the author’s job to make it more clear, either through repeated use or explanation. If chips are supposed to represent the common, non-magical life that awaits when/if the spire is broken then I would personally see them as less a terrifying presence and more a depressing one. Perhaps the chips smothering her under an weighty pile of gloom?
Just a Reader I never said I was for-sure not reading the comic anymore. All I said was it was difficult for me to tell if there was an undercurrent of humorous drug-references or if it was simply an odd choice of plot devices.
Tony I’m sorry if you felt I was implying I didn’t like the series, I don’t read through the entire archives of series I don’t like. I’m intrigued by the story, but I’m finding it hard to get invested in it.
This is just how I’m reading it, so take that for what it’s worth to you.
I feel that it might be easier to involve myself in this story if I knew more about it. I can’t get a good feel for the world and it’s mechanics so it’s hard for me to gauge how I should be reacting to certain things. For example: Cole runs up a wall and turns into a dragon. Pretty cool, but since I have no gauge of how the world works I have no idea how cool it is. Deers seem to be people (as do cows and dogs and wolves) so…maybe everyone can turn into animals when they feel like it?
Herrik can’t “rock” any of the stones, but since most of the cast seems to be “stoners” how rare is the ability to “rock” one? Is it genetic? Is there a special thing about a person that lets them become a “stoner”? What’s the fate of “posers”? Are there residual powers from having “rocked” a stone?
I’m not asking you to answer these questions now (please don’t, it might spoil the plot) but maybe look at exploring them some time soon, maybe use Jon, he seems to know a lot about the world he’s not sharing yet. With a world this complex you often need to spell certain things out for the readers (or maybe just me).
Great questions Sarasham. 🙂 All I can say is that my goal with Endstone is to create a unique, fantasy world that is not based Tolkien’s works. I very well could fail miserably in this regard, but the questions you ask are the ones I want the audience to be asking. The answers ( and the rules of this fictional universe) will be revealed as the story unfolds and more time is spent with the characters.
And I can honestly say there are no in-jokes. Everything evolves from the character’s personalities, their situation, and the rules of the Endstone universe. These things are obviously not clear at this point in the story, so events (like the rain of potato chips) seem bizarre…. by design. And no, I am not a vegan or vegetarian. I’m just putting the characters in problematic situations, and for an animal, the worst thing that can happen is being eaten! And I was serious when I came up with the term “stoner” for the “magic-users” of this world. I got a good chuckle when I realized the double-meaning. So I rolled with it.
I appreciate your comments and I hope you enjoy Endstone. However I realize that Endstone is not for everyone. And that’s cool too.
And I reserve the right to totally screw up this thing. I’m experimenting and having fun. I hope folks come along for the ride. 🙂
I get what where your coming from sarasham, but I have never once ever read or watched anything even remotely entertaining that explained how their universe worked or why it worked a certain way all at once, its always slowly over time, for the express purpose of getting people invested in staying around and learning more, I dont know how invested I could get in a story line that explained everything to me right off the bat, if you can think of ANY popular webcomic, comic book, show, or movie, that did so, please let me know… so I can stay away from it…
I would have to say, almost every single long running scifi show I have ever seen has done an alternate dimension thing, true, the author here is doing a unique version of that kinda scenario it seems, but it seriously just wouldnt be interesting at all if it was all explained at once… what would be the point in continuing to read?
I for my part enjoy the story a lot. The only thing I loath, same as I loath with almost all web comics, is reaching the end of the archive and having to wait half a week (with some web comics up to a month) for the next page. I know two web comics that have the new page every day, but they are, I think, web adaptations of comics that exist already in paperback, not produced on the go, and even they are frustrating to wait for it.
Other than the waiting, its a great story and great world.
Thanks Adon Rose. 🙂 I wish I could post more pages more frequently, but unfortunately, I have to hold down a full time job. 🙁 Still, I’m glad you’re reading and enjoying Endstone. 🙂