And the game of “chase me, chase me” is on! LOVE the expression in the inset panel! Just WHAT might she be looking at? (As if we don’t know! This is a “safe for work” comix after all!)
Undoubtly looking at herself realizing she’s naked. The first panel they were sniffing pheromons from each other, and Kyri from that noticed the deer was aroused. Classic. π
Thanks! Glad you are enjoying the comic, Garanhir. π And yes, Endstone is a “safe for work” comic. I’ve mulled over how much nudity should or shouldn’t be allowed, in the end I don’t want something that would get anyone in trouble at the work place.
Now I know what Tony means whe he said this:”As for their relationship, letβs just say they are trying to βhealβ things. Weβll see if they succeed.”
Yes, deer love to be chased and I’m sure it’s part of their “dating” scene. π Here, I just think Kyri is doing what comes naturally. She was literally born to be wild..
So, instincts kicked in? I wonder what happens if/when they *ahem* “get to the deed”… Would Kyri’s more “human” part make her stop/feel guilty about it/something else?
Also, just noticed that, but… I want to specify that when I said “human” in my last post I meant it in the cultural sense, since she’s still technically married to Jon.
Well, “humanoid” doesn’t really work, because Kyri is human-oid-ish…? It’s a bit confusing really: to draw a real life parallel, I feel the differences between Deer and Human in the world of Endstone are like those that would exist between a middle-class British and a Maori pre-colonisation. They’re both the same species, but the cultural differences that exist between them are really big, and they might not think in the same way.
In this sense, Kyri is a bit of both, so I expect her to sometimes feel conflicted between what she feels is right at a gut level (her Deerish upbringing), and trying to fit in with Human Society.
Kyri is a humanoid animal. Like most major animals since the wishing machine cataclysm, in fact. The way reality has been rewritten by the machine was by merging some human lines with entire animal species of the time (technical details unknown of course). Kyri should have been born human, if it were not for that cataclysm.
Only part we’re not sure is how many animal species are still purely animal and not humanoid hybrids like the deers, the dogs and the bears, to name a few.
@Darth Killer: I know that, and it’s why I find it a bit confusing, actually. π Not a critique to Tony, because I love the world-building behind Endstone, just stating that sometimes I get really confused when trying to explain Kyri without sounding derogatory.
The way I view it, the “races” of Endstone are more akin to Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals. They are on their way to separating into different species, but are not there yet π
@Tony : Maybe you need to check again the Homo tree, as in the last decade a lot of discoveries have been made, turning what we’ve been taught in schools into complete lies. π
For instance, Neanderthal and Sapiens were cousins but still distinct species. That is still made true, but the common ancestor is no longer Homo Erectus, as guess what ? Sapiens does not descend from Erectus. Instead, we descend from Erectus’s cousin, Ergaster.
Another debunk, despite being technically distinct species the various Homo could interbreed. In fact, many of our traits we got because some of our ancestors interbred with other Homo species, bypassing the need to wait for evolution to make us develop a trait. Red-hair comes specifically from Neanderthals, for instance, while tibetans have an extremly efficient oxygen processing system due to a genetic trait they got from ancestors interbreeding with local Homo Denisovan.
My point though : despite the breeding compatibility still being there, they were completly separated, sometimes since prio species like it was the case between Sapiens and Neandertals having the most recent common ancestor believed to be a close descendent of Habilis, which is a LOT older.
As for applying this Darwin view to Endstone humanoid animals, i clearly don’t like it. They would have to display reason above instict just like the human they supposedly derived from, yet it’s the other way around and reason, while possible, has to be taught through human contact. To me sounds less like humans evolving into animals in Darwin’s way and more like humans cursed with animal attributes to become the new form of their animal species, in which case the instict is better explained.
Funny we’re having a spicy exhcange in the comments of a youtube video, and Darwin was one of the subtopics of said comments… π
Oh genetics is a very serious hobby of mine, my friend. π When I mentioned Neanderthal and human relations earlier I was just being general, and making a point that humans and “animals” in Endstone are “cousin” hominids similar in a fashion to Neanderthals and humans, but not exactly in the same way.
And yes I agree that genetics shows we interbred traits from Denisovans and Neanderthals. In fact I’ve had myself tested and I am, according to the testing service, 3% Neanderthal (the upper 90 percentile).
As an aside, while it’s true Neanderthal’s may have had red hair, I’ve read that it’s not the same gene that gives modern humans red hair.
And concerning Endstone, I have my own ideas of course, but I’ll leave the final interpretation up to you readers. π
And the game of “chase me, chase me” is on! LOVE the expression in the inset panel! Just WHAT might she be looking at? (As if we don’t know! This is a “safe for work” comix after all!)
Undoubtly looking at herself realizing she’s naked. The first panel they were sniffing pheromons from each other, and Kyri from that noticed the deer was aroused. Classic. π
Thanks! Glad you are enjoying the comic, Garanhir. π And yes, Endstone is a “safe for work” comic. I’ve mulled over how much nudity should or shouldn’t be allowed, in the end I don’t want something that would get anyone in trouble at the work place.
I sense wolves ahead, for some reason. Probably they’ll get the deer, or she’ll scare him away by scaring them away…
We shall see…. π
Now I know what Tony means whe he said this:”As for their relationship, letβs just say they are trying to βhealβ things. Weβll see if they succeed.”
Yeah, I understand it too. And now I’m kinda sad.
This is one of the subplots of this story arc. Stay tuned. π
Hey, I hadn’t noticed the deer’s earrings and beard in the last page. They look very good on him!
(Also, the second and third panels made me chuckle. Good job, Tony.)
As always thanks. It’s good to know you are enjoying the comic. π
I remember reading that the chase is how deer flirt…
I see what you mean by ‘their relationship is rocky’.
(Whatchu lookin at there Kyri? Something peachy? :P)
Yes, deer love to be chased and I’m sure it’s part of their “dating” scene. π Here, I just think Kyri is doing what comes naturally. She was literally born to be wild..
So, instincts kicked in? I wonder what happens if/when they *ahem* “get to the deed”… Would Kyri’s more “human” part make her stop/feel guilty about it/something else?
First, the stag has to catch Kyri…. π
Why does that sound so ominous? XD
Also, just noticed that, but… I want to specify that when I said “human” in my last post I meant it in the cultural sense, since she’s still technically married to Jon.
Let’s just say “humanoid” then. π
Well, “humanoid” doesn’t really work, because Kyri is human-oid-ish…? It’s a bit confusing really: to draw a real life parallel, I feel the differences between Deer and Human in the world of Endstone are like those that would exist between a middle-class British and a Maori pre-colonisation. They’re both the same species, but the cultural differences that exist between them are really big, and they might not think in the same way.
In this sense, Kyri is a bit of both, so I expect her to sometimes feel conflicted between what she feels is right at a gut level (her Deerish upbringing), and trying to fit in with Human Society.
Kyri is a humanoid animal. Like most major animals since the wishing machine cataclysm, in fact. The way reality has been rewritten by the machine was by merging some human lines with entire animal species of the time (technical details unknown of course). Kyri should have been born human, if it were not for that cataclysm.
Only part we’re not sure is how many animal species are still purely animal and not humanoid hybrids like the deers, the dogs and the bears, to name a few.
@Darth Killer: I know that, and it’s why I find it a bit confusing, actually. π Not a critique to Tony, because I love the world-building behind Endstone, just stating that sometimes I get really confused when trying to explain Kyri without sounding derogatory.
The way I view it, the “races” of Endstone are more akin to Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals. They are on their way to separating into different species, but are not there yet π
@Tony : Maybe you need to check again the Homo tree, as in the last decade a lot of discoveries have been made, turning what we’ve been taught in schools into complete lies. π
For instance, Neanderthal and Sapiens were cousins but still distinct species. That is still made true, but the common ancestor is no longer Homo Erectus, as guess what ? Sapiens does not descend from Erectus. Instead, we descend from Erectus’s cousin, Ergaster.
Another debunk, despite being technically distinct species the various Homo could interbreed. In fact, many of our traits we got because some of our ancestors interbred with other Homo species, bypassing the need to wait for evolution to make us develop a trait. Red-hair comes specifically from Neanderthals, for instance, while tibetans have an extremly efficient oxygen processing system due to a genetic trait they got from ancestors interbreeding with local Homo Denisovan.
My point though : despite the breeding compatibility still being there, they were completly separated, sometimes since prio species like it was the case between Sapiens and Neandertals having the most recent common ancestor believed to be a close descendent of Habilis, which is a LOT older.
As for applying this Darwin view to Endstone humanoid animals, i clearly don’t like it. They would have to display reason above instict just like the human they supposedly derived from, yet it’s the other way around and reason, while possible, has to be taught through human contact. To me sounds less like humans evolving into animals in Darwin’s way and more like humans cursed with animal attributes to become the new form of their animal species, in which case the instict is better explained.
Funny we’re having a spicy exhcange in the comments of a youtube video, and Darwin was one of the subtopics of said comments… π
Oh genetics is a very serious hobby of mine, my friend. π When I mentioned Neanderthal and human relations earlier I was just being general, and making a point that humans and “animals” in Endstone are “cousin” hominids similar in a fashion to Neanderthals and humans, but not exactly in the same way.
And yes I agree that genetics shows we interbred traits from Denisovans and Neanderthals. In fact I’ve had myself tested and I am, according to the testing service, 3% Neanderthal (the upper 90 percentile).
As an aside, while it’s true Neanderthal’s may have had red hair, I’ve read that it’s not the same gene that gives modern humans red hair.
And concerning Endstone, I have my own ideas of course, but I’ll leave the final interpretation up to you readers. π